water mixable oil paint

newcraft wrote

on 18 Dec 2009 6:29 PM

what is the performance of these types of oil paints, and are there any brands that are better than another?

thanks again

mrstyles wrote

on 19 Dec 2009 8:49 AM

no, all name brands of paint are about the same...buy a small set, and start painting.

helen sullivan wrote

on 19 Dec 2009 9:56 AM

 I think they perform well. I like the advantage of soap and water clean up - brushes and for cloths.  It has saved some clothing from the rag pile in the past.

newcraft wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 4:34 AM

thanks for answering,  i use acrylics but was thinking about trying the water based oils

newcraft wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 4:36 AM

thank you for your response, it helped.  i am super new at this

helen sullivan wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 5:33 AM

Glad to be of assistance.  I'm an acrylicist as well.  Working with the oils is still somewhat new for me.  I like the waterbased oils, but I'm having to relearn everything because contrary to what folks say - acrylics and oils are very different to work with.

Margo5 wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 10:01 AM

This is interesting, Helen. I would have thought that acrylics and oils would work in a very similar way. Glad to know that.

helen sullivan wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 2:45 PM

Margo - it's probably just how I work the paint.  I layer a lot.  With acrylics I can work my way around a painting because the first part has dried by the time I get back to it.  Or I can do some work; then let it dry for about 1/2 an hour, and work on it again.  It seems that with oils, because they stay open, I either can only do a very little bit each day, or I'm working in areas that are still wet.  Oh well. Lots of learning to do.

Margo5 wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 4:14 PM

Helen, artistnetwork.tv has some amazing DVD's that you can buy a subscription to see. They have several different plans. They had a special deal going on that you could get a free 1 year subscription to Artist's Magazine as well as several months free watching artistnetwork.tv. My point is, that many of the oil painters teach how to paint the whole painting while the paint is wet. The top layers are applied very gently with the proper brushes (a probably years of experience) and it is all done in one sitting. You might want to look at it.

helen sullivan wrote

on 20 Dec 2009 6:34 PM

Thanks. I'll take a look.

newcraft wrote

on 26 Dec 2009 7:29 PM

Hi Helen,  My name is Jeannette.  I just started painting. Did 2 pictures years ago, but now have the time to really get into it.  You wrote that you layer a lot

i just read about puting washes of the compimentary color over to soften the image.  is this what you mean?  are you painting abstracts, this is what I would like to do.   thanks for helping

Margo5 wrote

on 26 Dec 2009 8:05 PM

Helen, one thing I need to clarify. This deal is being offered through North Light Shop. It is called their North Light VIP Program.

helen sullivan wrote

on 27 Dec 2009 6:19 AM

flowers - oil 2.jpg

Hi Jeannette.  Yes part of my process involves glazing ( layers of complimentary or other colors over each other to build the final color), but I also build my paintings from the background forward.  For example I'm working on a painting of my house (to memorialize the blizzard of '09).  I started by quickly blocking in the house, sky and snow bands, then letting them dry.  I then painted the sky and and house roof.  When they were dry I added some trees that show up in the background behind and beside the house.  I'm working on the house and a large bush in front of the house now.  When they are dry and the house is finished,  I'll add the deck railings (which run the length of the house in front) finsh the snow in the foreground and add snow to the bush.  Then clean up the details and add highlights.  This is just my process.  I started my "training" doing watercolors, so I lot of what I do is based on that. 

I believe that Margo is correct - many oil paintings are built in one sitting (or at least predominantly completed in one sitting).  I'm taking a class in painting with oils to try to learn these techniques. Just for fun, here is a small oil painting I did in one sitting in that class. You can see the trouble I had working the background and the leaves at the same time, while both were wet.

helen sullivan wrote

on 27 Dec 2009 6:25 AM

Margo - thanks for this info.  Looks interesting.

Margo5 wrote

on 27 Dec 2009 8:59 AM

Helen, this painting is kind of neat and fun because I can see your watercolor training coming through. There are probably some neat fun watercolor effects that you could get using oils if you wanted to.