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judyl40 wrote

on 26 Nov 2010 9:26 AM

I would keep in mind that any manufacturer would quite naturally promote their own product over any other available product.. Which is why I prefer to go to the AMIEN site (Art Materials Information and Education Network: amien.org) with any questions involving materials & techniques, as they have nothing to sell but information.

Margo5 wrote

on 26 Nov 2010 11:22 AM

Judyl, this is nice information to have on the AMIEN site. Thanks for posting it.

peter_ahart wrote

on 26 Nov 2010 6:11 PM

Looks like a great source for information. Thanks!

Ownerofphil wrote

on 13 Nov 2011 10:04 PM

hi, i was looking to try liquin but wanted to read up on it and found my way to this place and when I read your post I couldn't help myself i signed up for this website in order to reply to you because i don't think you are right. I'm a college student majoring in painting and I have been told to paint from thin to thick not the other way around. why do you beleive that painting thin to think will cause the paint to crack? because of the medium? i've never used liquin so i do not know.

Jay Babina wrote

on 22 Nov 2011 8:32 AM

I have no allergic sensitivity to Liquin but I don't like the smell and I have no doubt that the fumes are not good for me. I have to try the Ganblin Walnut Alkyd Medium. I use the Liquin a lot outside for my initial wash lay-ins and on a sunny day, an hour later its tacky enough to not interfere with subsequent layers.  Sometime Titanium white just takes forever to harden up and Liquin always helps. I never use it as a clear coating just as a quick drying medium mixed into the paint and very little.

Daryl6 wrote

on 29 Nov 2011 11:39 AM

Since I had original posted this topic I have experimented a lot more with mediums and exploring fat over lean. Not to be confused with thick over thin paint. My choices provided a path to what I am considering GOING GREEN. I have chose to eliminate the use of turpentine or Gamsol in favor of using M. Graham Walnut Alkyd Oil Painting Medium or M. Graham Walnut Oil Painting Medium. It is favorable with my paints, they have no odors, even orderless turps still have headache reaching odors for some of my students who have used them.

The Alkyd dries much faster, while the non-Alkyd is very slow drying, both having there own benefits. The Non Alkyd is also used to clean brushes and seems to not dry out the bristles as Gamsol and turpentines do.

You may see some of my paintings on my website DarylUrig.com that include painting with painting knives or brushes. I do enjoy the thick texture of paint. These are also the painting material I use in my worshops.

KatPaints wrote

on 30 Nov 2011 5:56 PM

I like liquin. I used it for years when I was younger. Now that I'm getting back in to painting, I find it dries a bit too quickly. At times I think liquin would be good to use, but I was also considering a linseed oil/mineral spirits mix. I was wondering if anyone here has used different mediums or if you stick with one medium. The concern I have is whether the linseed/spirit mix would be more fat than liquin....

Daryl6 wrote

on 30 Nov 2011 7:52 PM

I have used different percentages of mixes like Damar Varnish, turpentine and Stand oil ( I think I posted this on my blog last year), even just plain stand oil I experimented with briefly. But compared to the buttery feel given by the Alkyd Walnut oil I mentioned above, it is no comparison. The other thing I appreciate about the Walnut oil is that it seem, in my experience, to provide a nice uniform sheen to the painting. I always disliked with the way other mediums would leave some colors looking flat in sheen and other would be more matte or glossy in the same painting. Changing my original color intention.

Hope this helps.

KatPaints wrote

on 30 Nov 2011 8:52 PM

I would think that the Walnut oil would go "bad" quicker. I also wonder how much Walnut oil has been time tested?

I was wondering if someone here has any paintings say over 20 30 years old with impasto... If it has or hasn't deteriorated in any way could you share what stages of mediums you have used? Thanks

I have noticed that many museum paintings with thick impasto were significantly less cracked if the painting is on a rigid surface like wood. I recall the most cracking in many dark areas of the dutch paintings.

peter_ahart wrote

on 1 Dec 2011 7:18 AM

Check out gamblin differnt mediums. The problem with linseed/stand/damar is that it yellows. Gamblin has mediums that dont yellow but are slow drying or fast drying, depends on what you want. They also have information of how to add more oil when your working in layers(fat over lean).